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		<title>By: Ian Delaney</title>
		<link>http://twopointouch.com/2008/business/sit-and-listen/comment-page-1/#comment-12280</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Delaney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 14:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I absolutely agree with your quibble - sorry I didn&#039;t include that more explicitly.

Little Corporate Schoolhouse is a great expression for the prevailing attitude - one I&#039;m definitely going to steal!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I absolutely agree with your quibble &#8211; sorry I didn&#8217;t include that more explicitly.</p>
<p>Little Corporate Schoolhouse is a great expression for the prevailing attitude &#8211; one I&#8217;m definitely going to steal!</p>
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		<title>By: Learning v Training &#171; CE Buzz</title>
		<link>http://twopointouch.com/2008/business/sit-and-listen/comment-page-1/#comment-12279</link>
		<dc:creator>Learning v Training &#171; CE Buzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 14:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#124; &#160;  Helene Blowers (LibraryBytes), points us to a wonderful post over at Twopointouch, Sit and Listen. Author Ian Delaney makes a number of great points [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] | &nbsp;  Helene Blowers (LibraryBytes), points us to a wonderful post over at Twopointouch, Sit and Listen. Author Ian Delaney makes a number of great points [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Ferguson</title>
		<link>http://twopointouch.com/2008/business/sit-and-listen/comment-page-1/#comment-12278</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Ferguson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 14:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian, I&#039;d quibble about training as something that gets done to you.  

The quibble is that I think &#039;training&#039; is more narrow in focus and goals than &#039;learning.&#039;  Training: the essentials of tracking leads and contacts using the new system.  Learning: applying that system so you&#039;re a higher-performing salesperson.

But I often work in instructional design, so I would say that, wouldn&#039;t I?

Your main point is definitely on target.  Employers (and not a few employees) tend to have the Little Corporate Schoolhouse model: scheduled courses, counts of student-days, training as inoculation.

Sometimes, too, it&#039;s Gresham&#039;s Law at work: the administrative ease of box-ticking drives out less familiar, less docile alternatives.

To say nothing of &quot;training&quot; that tries to do what improved tools, standards, processes, feedback systems, or support systems could do better (and with less irritation to the victims... I mean learners.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian, I&#8217;d quibble about training as something that gets done to you.  </p>
<p>The quibble is that I think &#8216;training&#8217; is more narrow in focus and goals than &#8216;learning.&#8217;  Training: the essentials of tracking leads and contacts using the new system.  Learning: applying that system so you&#8217;re a higher-performing salesperson.</p>
<p>But I often work in instructional design, so I would say that, wouldn&#8217;t I?</p>
<p>Your main point is definitely on target.  Employers (and not a few employees) tend to have the Little Corporate Schoolhouse model: scheduled courses, counts of student-days, training as inoculation.</p>
<p>Sometimes, too, it&#8217;s Gresham&#8217;s Law at work: the administrative ease of box-ticking drives out less familiar, less docile alternatives.</p>
<p>To say nothing of &#8220;training&#8221; that tries to do what improved tools, standards, processes, feedback systems, or support systems could do better (and with less irritation to the victims&#8230; I mean learners.)</p>
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		<title>By: Portable Learning &#171; wonderwebby</title>
		<link>http://twopointouch.com/2008/business/sit-and-listen/comment-page-1/#comment-12274</link>
		<dc:creator>Portable Learning &#171; wonderwebby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 02:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] also pointed to a couple of other blogger&#8217;s pearls recently, such as Ian Delaney&#8217;s post summing up the Learning 2.0 report from the CIM (Chartered Institute of Marketing) to be released later this [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] also pointed to a couple of other blogger&#8217;s pearls recently, such as Ian Delaney&#8217;s post summing up the Learning 2.0 report from the CIM (Chartered Institute of Marketing) to be released later this [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Delaney</title>
		<link>http://twopointouch.com/2008/business/sit-and-listen/comment-page-1/#comment-12273</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Delaney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to think so, Mitch, but my teacher colleagues report that most training days are entirely devoted to new systems or even to catching up on admin. Both are needed, too, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to think so, Mitch, but my teacher colleagues report that most training days are entirely devoted to new systems or even to catching up on admin. Both are needed, too, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: mitch weisburgh</title>
		<link>http://twopointouch.com/2008/business/sit-and-listen/comment-page-1/#comment-12267</link>
		<dc:creator>mitch weisburgh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 22:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Things are changing in PD for teachers. See my blog entry http://academicbiz.typepad.com/piloted/2008/01/a-vision-for-pr.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Things are changing in PD for teachers. See my blog entry <a href="http://academicbiz.typepad.com/piloted/2008/01/a-vision-for-pr.html" rel="nofollow">http://academicbiz.typepad.com/piloted/2008/01/a-vision-for-pr.html</a></p>
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