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		<title>By: Ian Delaney</title>
		<link>http://twopointouch.com/2007/social-media/geist-in-the-machine/comment-page-1/#comment-11597</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Delaney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 10:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kyle - I guess three minutes was a bit tight for you to explain your service, and for me to understand it. I&#039;ll try to find time to look at it more closely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kyle &#8211; I guess three minutes was a bit tight for you to explain your service, and for me to understand it. I&#8217;ll try to find time to look at it more closely.</p>
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		<title>By: The EIPP (e-invoicing) and StartUp Blog &#187; Two days in London - Meeting Henry + Mashup* Demo + FOWA 07</title>
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		<dc:creator>The EIPP (e-invoicing) and StartUp Blog &#187; Two days in London - Meeting Henry + Mashup* Demo + FOWA 07</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 02:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Geist in the Machine&#160;from Ian Delaney, whom I met briefly at FOWA the next day. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kyle Arteaga</title>
		<link>http://twopointouch.com/2007/social-media/geist-in-the-machine/comment-page-1/#comment-11595</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle Arteaga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 22:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian,

Thanks for the mention of Serena Mashup Composer (www.serena.com/mashups) . While we have talked quite a bit about how business users can also use the product, we are by no means excluding IT. 
There is definitely an application for IT to use this for rapid application development to also address the long tail of IT applications. 

Since we plan to offer online deployment, enlightened CIOs and IT departments will also give access to these types of tools to their internal customers in the business as long as they can feel secure that it meets their governance guidelines. 

Happy to talk about it anytime if you&#039;d like. 

Kyle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian,</p>
<p>Thanks for the mention of Serena Mashup Composer (www.serena.com/mashups) . While we have talked quite a bit about how business users can also use the product, we are by no means excluding IT.<br />
There is definitely an application for IT to use this for rapid application development to also address the long tail of IT applications. </p>
<p>Since we plan to offer online deployment, enlightened CIOs and IT departments will also give access to these types of tools to their internal customers in the business as long as they can feel secure that it meets their governance guidelines. </p>
<p>Happy to talk about it anytime if you&#8217;d like. </p>
<p>Kyle</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Delaney</title>
		<link>http://twopointouch.com/2007/social-media/geist-in-the-machine/comment-page-1/#comment-11594</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Delaney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 17:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Manoj - you too - I love freaky coincidences like that!

@Daniel - interesting thoughts about the meaning of local and why a multinational will struggle to create an algorithm for &#039;locality&#039;.

@Ramon - I saw the feature but it fell down with my OPML of around 250 feeds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Manoj &#8211; you too &#8211; I love freaky coincidences like that!</p>
<p>@Daniel &#8211; interesting thoughts about the meaning of local and why a multinational will struggle to create an algorithm for &#8216;locality&#8217;.</p>
<p>@Ramon &#8211; I saw the feature but it fell down with my OPML of around 250 feeds.</p>
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		<title>By: Manoj Ranaweera</title>
		<link>http://twopointouch.com/2007/social-media/geist-in-the-machine/comment-page-1/#comment-11593</link>
		<dc:creator>Manoj Ranaweera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 16:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian, pleasure to have met you today. Best regards, Manoj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian, pleasure to have met you today. Best regards, Manoj</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Bower</title>
		<link>http://twopointouch.com/2007/social-media/geist-in-the-machine/comment-page-1/#comment-11592</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Bower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 13:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Ian, don&#039;t worry about throwing in your own opinion, it makes the world a much more interesting place.

On the topic of Google, I think the problem it faces is that local means something different to everyone.  To paraphrase Simon Willison, in London it&#039;s about where the nearest tube is, and in Oxford it is about where to lock up your bike.  This kind of information can only be determined through close interaction with local communities, something a monolithic company like Google will struggle to do.

That said I completely agree that as a republisher (call it aggregator if you like) Google  has real strength, but in that scenario it still needs sites like ours to fuel it.

I think Google&#039;s local API is where it&#039;s strength lies, the geo-spatial work they do and the search that sites like ours can leverage.  Imagine if Google provided an accurate, freely available directory of businesses all over the world that any local site could plug in, now that would be cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Ian, don&#8217;t worry about throwing in your own opinion, it makes the world a much more interesting place.</p>
<p>On the topic of Google, I think the problem it faces is that local means something different to everyone.  To paraphrase Simon Willison, in London it&#8217;s about where the nearest tube is, and in Oxford it is about where to lock up your bike.  This kind of information can only be determined through close interaction with local communities, something a monolithic company like Google will struggle to do.</p>
<p>That said I completely agree that as a republisher (call it aggregator if you like) Google  has real strength, but in that scenario it still needs sites like ours to fuel it.</p>
<p>I think Google&#8217;s local API is where it&#8217;s strength lies, the geo-spatial work they do and the search that sites like ours can leverage.  Imagine if Google provided an accurate, freely available directory of businesses all over the world that any local site could plug in, now that would be cool.</p>
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		<title>By: Thoughts on Monitoring Tools &#187; The Buzz Bin</title>
		<link>http://twopointouch.com/2007/social-media/geist-in-the-machine/comment-page-1/#comment-11591</link>
		<dc:creator>Thoughts on Monitoring Tools &#187; The Buzz Bin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 11:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] more, and there are companies that are focused primarily on providing widgets (such as rollSense, reviewed briefly on twopointouch) and services that make it easier to find relevant and interesting information based on your [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] more, and there are companies that are focused primarily on providing widgets (such as rollSense, reviewed briefly on twopointouch) and services that make it easier to find relevant and interesting information based on your [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ramon Guiu</title>
		<link>http://twopointouch.com/2007/social-media/geist-in-the-machine/comment-page-1/#comment-11590</link>
		<dc:creator>Ramon Guiu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 10:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ian, 

Thanks for the write up and glad you found rollSense interesting.

We have been in other startup events and I must say the Mashup Demo has been one of the most useful events to date. Very interesting and friendly people, easy chatting, good atmosphere and free drinks! ;) On the other hand, I think we were the only non-UK company, so I guess this event could benefit from more international exposure.

Regarding our service, actually you don&#039;t need to enter each and every url by hand, which I agree is a tedious task. You can also upload your OPML file, which is the most standard way available today to list the feeds in your blogroll. Almost any feed reader supports exporting all your feeds as an OPML file. Google Reader certainly does under the Settings - Import/Export tab.

Nevertheless, I completely agree that an extra level of automation would be better, i.e. automatically grabbing your Google Reader feeds or your Wordpress blogroll. Thanks for the advice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ian, </p>
<p>Thanks for the write up and glad you found rollSense interesting.</p>
<p>We have been in other startup events and I must say the Mashup Demo has been one of the most useful events to date. Very interesting and friendly people, easy chatting, good atmosphere and free drinks! ;) On the other hand, I think we were the only non-UK company, so I guess this event could benefit from more international exposure.</p>
<p>Regarding our service, actually you don&#8217;t need to enter each and every url by hand, which I agree is a tedious task. You can also upload your OPML file, which is the most standard way available today to list the feeds in your blogroll. Almost any feed reader supports exporting all your feeds as an OPML file. Google Reader certainly does under the Settings &#8211; Import/Export tab.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, I completely agree that an extra level of automation would be better, i.e. automatically grabbing your Google Reader feeds or your Wordpress blogroll. Thanks for the advice.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Fairhall</title>
		<link>http://twopointouch.com/2007/social-media/geist-in-the-machine/comment-page-1/#comment-11589</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Fairhall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 08:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ian.  Excellent write up and thanks for the mention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ian.  Excellent write up and thanks for the mention.</p>
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		<title>By: Manoj Ranaweera</title>
		<link>http://twopointouch.com/2007/social-media/geist-in-the-machine/comment-page-1/#comment-11588</link>
		<dc:creator>Manoj Ranaweera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 05:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian thanks for your response. In future, edocr might offer number of broader functionality, e.g. private secure data space for M&amp;A Data Room (we have a potential client asking for this service).

Right now, we provide an environment for public facing documents that you could find in public domain, i.e. generally from websites of companies. These websites do not provide interactivity for business documents, hence the birth of edocr. 

&quot;My edocr&quot; yet to be fully built will provide on one side (say left hand) performance of your uploads, and on the right hand side the documents you want, e.g. you inform edocr that you are looking for most recent white papers with more than five comments on &quot;private mobile radio&quot;. As the relevant documents are uploaded, these will appear on &quot;your edocr&quot;. Now we begin to add value. 

The benefits are obvious to some users. Other&#039;s do not get it. So, on our part, continuous and consistent education is needed. And this is where you and other bloggers (like myself) can help. Please continue to engage in conversation. On behalf of edocr team, we appreciate your engagement very much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian thanks for your response. In future, edocr might offer number of broader functionality, e.g. private secure data space for M&amp;A Data Room (we have a potential client asking for this service).</p>
<p>Right now, we provide an environment for public facing documents that you could find in public domain, i.e. generally from websites of companies. These websites do not provide interactivity for business documents, hence the birth of edocr. </p>
<p>&#8220;My edocr&#8221; yet to be fully built will provide on one side (say left hand) performance of your uploads, and on the right hand side the documents you want, e.g. you inform edocr that you are looking for most recent white papers with more than five comments on &#8220;private mobile radio&#8221;. As the relevant documents are uploaded, these will appear on &#8220;your edocr&#8221;. Now we begin to add value. </p>
<p>The benefits are obvious to some users. Other&#8217;s do not get it. So, on our part, continuous and consistent education is needed. And this is where you and other bloggers (like myself) can help. Please continue to engage in conversation. On behalf of edocr team, we appreciate your engagement very much.</p>
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