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	<title>Comments on: Feeling Bitacle</title>
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		<title>By: Billy The Blogging Poet</title>
		<link>http://twopointouch.com/2006/stuff/bitacle/comment-page-1/#comment-506</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy The Blogging Poet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2006 03:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian,
Rather than repeat myself on a hundred different blogs I updated my post where you left your comments with links to a way to deal with scrapers I&#039;ve used successfully many times. That said: unless you set your RSS feeds to short you are doomed to repeat this same thing on a pretty regular basis-- like it or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian,<br />
Rather than repeat myself on a hundred different blogs I updated my post where you left your comments with links to a way to deal with scrapers I&#8217;ve used successfully many times. That said: unless you set your RSS feeds to short you are doomed to repeat this same thing on a pretty regular basis&#8211; like it or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Delaney</title>
		<link>http://twopointouch.com/2006/stuff/bitacle/comment-page-1/#comment-502</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Delaney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 22:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I said, it breaches the Creative Commons license I have put on this site. So, yes, I do have a problem.

Any idea how to proceed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I said, it breaches the Creative Commons license I have put on this site. So, yes, I do have a problem.</p>
<p>Any idea how to proceed?</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Gahran</title>
		<link>http://twopointouch.com/2006/stuff/bitacle/comment-page-1/#comment-501</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy Gahran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 22:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the advertising networks ought to be thinking a lot more about the value they are delivering to both publishers and advertisers.&quot;

Google and Yahoo especially should be mindful of how their encouragement of splogs directly undermines the usefulness of their own search engines.

Also, I guess if you&#039;re getting a link back from a splog and that makes you happy, then that&#039;s your business. Personally, Id have a problem with that, but to each their own.

- Amy Gahran</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the advertising networks ought to be thinking a lot more about the value they are delivering to both publishers and advertisers.&#8221;</p>
<p>Google and Yahoo especially should be mindful of how their encouragement of splogs directly undermines the usefulness of their own search engines.</p>
<p>Also, I guess if you&#8217;re getting a link back from a splog and that makes you happy, then that&#8217;s your business. Personally, Id have a problem with that, but to each their own.</p>
<p>- Amy Gahran</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Delaney</title>
		<link>http://twopointouch.com/2006/stuff/bitacle/comment-page-1/#comment-500</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Delaney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 22:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the great information. 

It&#039;s where we draw the line between aggregators and splogs, I guess  - I publish a full text feed because I think it&#039;s the right thing to do. But I don&#039;t want someone else to make money out of my content without my permission. The CC license is there for a reason. It&#039;s also on my feed via feedburner.

Good point that the advertising networks ought to be thinking a lot more about the value they are delivering to both publishers and advertisers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the great information. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s where we draw the line between aggregators and splogs, I guess  &#8211; I publish a full text feed because I think it&#8217;s the right thing to do. But I don&#8217;t want someone else to make money out of my content without my permission. The CC license is there for a reason. It&#8217;s also on my feed via feedburner.</p>
<p>Good point that the advertising networks ought to be thinking a lot more about the value they are delivering to both publishers and advertisers.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Gahran</title>
		<link>http://twopointouch.com/2006/stuff/bitacle/comment-page-1/#comment-499</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy Gahran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 21:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Ian

Yeah, this Bitacle splog has received a lot of attention lately. although, as far as I can tell, it&#039;s just another splog -- maybe more sophisticated and ambitious in terms of whose content, and how much content, it steals -- but otherwise, just another splog.

The more I think over this splogger problem, the more I think it&#039;s futile and even counterproductive to try to hunt down and shut down individual sploggers.

They&#039;re not the real problem. They&#039;re just opportunists. The REAL problem is that Google, Yahoo, and other online ad network providers have their programs set up in such a way that actively *encourages* sploggers.

It does no good to stamp out a few cockroaches. You have to stop them from breeding.

I just wrote more about this at Contentious: http://tinyurl.com/rvp7t

Thanks!

- Amy Gahran</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Ian</p>
<p>Yeah, this Bitacle splog has received a lot of attention lately. although, as far as I can tell, it&#8217;s just another splog &#8212; maybe more sophisticated and ambitious in terms of whose content, and how much content, it steals &#8212; but otherwise, just another splog.</p>
<p>The more I think over this splogger problem, the more I think it&#8217;s futile and even counterproductive to try to hunt down and shut down individual sploggers.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re not the real problem. They&#8217;re just opportunists. The REAL problem is that Google, Yahoo, and other online ad network providers have their programs set up in such a way that actively *encourages* sploggers.</p>
<p>It does no good to stamp out a few cockroaches. You have to stop them from breeding.</p>
<p>I just wrote more about this at Contentious: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/rvp7t" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/rvp7t</a></p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>- Amy Gahran</p>
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